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Quote smartr Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 15:39

Toad,

I'm going to take some piccies tonight so will have a crack at loading them up when I get back from Wales.

 
 
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 17:01
Originally posted by johnno

anyone reading these posts about the Bellagio will buy one, at this rate it will be a cult bike on here love the enthusiasm chaps
 
...Yes, they are a pretty individal machine that's for sure.
 
It's strange, but another Bellagio owner (Mark Bellagio) who used to post quite often on the forum, seems to have dropped off the radar of late....Do hope all is well with him as he has set up a meeting of "Bellagisti" over in Rugby for Aug. 25th. See >>>>
 
 
I'm certain that he extends the invite to riders of all of other MG models too as a chance to put some names to faces, so should anyone know of his whereabouts/wellbeing perhaps they would contact Mark to see if the meet is still on?
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Quote Toad Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 19:44
Bumpy

I only use it on the stainless pownpipes on my bike.

The bottle says not to use on chrome.

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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 20:00
Hya Toad.  Wonder wheels ...Is this widely available, like at halfords for instance?
 
Also, is this sort of a mild acid solution as opposed to the fine abrasive of other metal polishes?
 
I don't have a great deal of the "spotting" yet only up near the flanges at the top of the headers, and the pipes are a goldy-straw colour and i'd like to find something to maybe keep it either there or back toward new condition, but i'm a little concerned about using acid to achieve that.


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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 20:34
Thanks for the replies guys!

One of the biggest transitions I'm finding is going from a sports bike to upright cruiser.   All this time I considered my sports bike very comfy.  The Bellagio makes it look like I've been putting up with torture!

Some useful ideas here - I've never used Autosol or Autoglym so will have to start. 

David - done 2,000 miles now!  It's still strange getting used to the centre of gravity being somewhere else.   I checked my chicken strips and I'm definitely not leaning over at all!  Readjusted the clutch position to no.3 from no.4.  It feels miles better than day one when it was on no.4.

940v - good point about the shading of the fly screen and 90 degree tyre valve bracket.  Will have to try and see if this works.  Thing is, I'm loving the naked bike experience.  It feels so much cooler and is really cool  riding in today's hot summer weather.   I can see why cruisers are great in warm summer weather.   The absence of fairing really helps cool down.

Met up with  Mark last Saturday - now, looking back, I'm amazed at how clean Mark's Bellagio is!  After yesterday's rain, it looks like I need to wash mine again. 

anyone reading these posts about the Bellagio will buy one, at this rate it will be a cult bike on here love the enthusiasm chaps


Hey Johnno - it's my first non sports bike so I'm surprised to be so excited about it!  I've been thinking about a Bellagio for ages, but was worried it would just not be as exhilarating to ride.  Not getting an easily available test ride - whereas it's easy to test ride anything else!  I've ridden a few bikes, mostly modern v-twin bikes.  I love v-twins and don't really care for the fours so the 936cc; the shape; the weight - everything just feels so right on the Bellagio.    Everything - just beautiful Italian.   If Aprilia hadn't taken over Moto Guzzi and reinnervated it with the CARC system development, I think Moto Guzzi might still be about a decade behind in their motorcycle development.   They really have come a long way since Aprilia took over - so it's a pleasant surprise for me to discover it's spirited v-twin engine.  I've always been a bit biased and never thought anything other than a v-twin sports bike could be as exciting to ride.  I liked the Griso which I tried before the Bellagio.  That was a good bike.  Aesthetics - it's okay.  Comfort - there's no way it even comes a margin close to the Bellagio.  Engine was a different feel - more of a wolverine beast than a refined stallion at speed.   It just amazes me how comfortable, swift and beautiful the Bellagio is.   Moto Guzzi have just got it so right in so many areas with the Bellagio.   Apart from marketing in the UK that is. 

PS - The links to the exhaust guys look like a good shot.  I really would like to see if these exhausts can be cored and dyno'd for a longer power curve at the top end. 
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Quote Toad Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 21:05
Hi 940V

Yes I got mine from Halfords. Paint some on agitate with supplied brush and then wash off.

Apprciate what you say about using acid rather than a polish and I felt the same when I was told about using it.

Tested it on a bit small area of pipe and result was so good I did the whole lot.
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 21:10
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Hi 940V

Yes I got mine from Halfords. Paint some on agitate with supplied brush and then wash off.

Apprciate what you say about using acid rather than a polish and I felt the same when I was told about using it.

Tested it on a bit small area of pipe and result was so good I did the whole lot.
 
Cheers Dave! that's the way i'll go then.
 
...Hey is it something about "Daves" that have a mystical links to Bellagio's Big%20smile
 
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 21:18
Grant: Cheers man. Hey, are you going to do the Rugby run?  It would be good to meet up and have a chin wag with you and the other guys, but like i told Mark, i sometimes get bogged down by work commitments and that can mess up prev. made arrangementsUnhappy
 
....Anyway, don't forget that your beautiful motor is push rod operated and not a cammy V twin next time you go bashing it off the rev limiter you naughty little luddite person LOL 
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Quote guzzibear Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 21:39

It seems you are now "in on the secret" I "found" Guzzis waaay back in 1989, I have had other bikes as well as BUT the newer range is alot more exciting.

Take a look at the V11 Le Mans. Your enthusiasm comes through on your posts. Let's hope for a good Summer and get out for a few rides. If you can get along to some of the meets and rallies the Vee Twin is another Guzzi eye opener and just about unique in the UK.

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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 21:59
....Anyway, don't forget that your beautiful motor is push rod operated and not a cammy V twin next time you go bashing it off the rev limiter you naughty little luddite person LOL

Sh*t.  Did I do something I'm not supposed to?!  It's very hard to tell if I'm redlining the Bellagio when I don't have a redliner!  Or tachometer for that matter Embarrassed

I am getting used to sequential gear changes by the feel of the engine, but I'm sure I'm doing a few gear changes really wrong.  I jumped from 1st into 4th and pulled off at 30kph to see if it would stall - no problems there.  Just a wide shaky vibration before it pulled it back from my attempt at horlicks.

I was actually going to wait till summer to get a Bellagio in Europe where I'll be spending July and August.  I'm actually very undersocialised and I have never been to a motorcycle bash in my life!  Partly my work is a bit like yours and the spanners get thrown in at the last minute due to work commitments. 

The European option put me off when I looked at it in closer detail.  Customs red tape and restrictions on importing motorcycles and our fantastic exchange rate made me decide to just get one to ride over in summer.   My sportsbike has a tank range of 99 miles - no way I can go touring on that.

Would still be great to meet up with you guys - I owe you all at least a drink for helping me out with all my numptiness!







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Quote Mark Bellagio Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 15:38

I've been away all week in Prague, just got back and catching up on MGCGB forum.

Hey, belated congratulations Rob (Grant) on getting your black Bellagio! Smile 2nd hand?  Black? How miles on clock? Private/dealer?  Did you swap in the Priller or is Bellagio a 2nd bike as you were originally thinking of?

As David says (D15 NEL) it has a dry clutch hence the dry metallic rattle, no where near as bad the Ducati Monster 1000 I had!
 
Really good to meet up with you last Saturdya afternoon in  Ewell.  I hope seeing my Bellagio made you finally go for it  Wink
 
We're all gonna meet up on Aug 23rd near Rugby for 1st Annual Bellagio meet, hopefully you'll be back from Europe for that?
 
 
Congrats again!
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Quote guzzibear Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 19:10
Once you start offering BEER Grant you are well in Wink 
Mines a gallon by the way TongueLOL
I am sure Northwest and Duffo will be in the line up as well LOL
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 21:00
Tsk...Enuff of the pleasantries for one moment Wink
 
....Back to basics, and i still trawl the web for the newest stuff picked up by the search engines on the Bellagio. i must admit that i have been dismayed by the amount of web based write ups that lean so heavily on the romantic/semi etherial pink glasses marketing blurb about this bike, and as such i continued the search for something a bit more ..
errrrr scathing???
 
I found this article today, written by an eastern european rider who seems to have picked up his/her engilsh by reading "murrican" review sites...
 
Never mind, they do have it a tad tough over there on the balkan border so take it on the chin and take a squint at this piece >>>>
 
 
Cali owners may take an extra rum ration from the barrel prior to taking position in the empty vessel...Hit it up now with Boris Mihailovic by clicking the link!
 
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 21:10
Originally posted by Mark Bellagio

I've been away all week in Prague, just got back and catching up on MGCGB forum.Hey, belated congratulations Rob (Grant) on getting your black Bellagio! Smile 2nd hand?  Black? How miles on clock? Private/dealer?  Did you swap in the Priller or is Bellagio a 2nd bike as you were originally thinking of?As David says (D15 NEL) it has a dry clutch hence the dry metallic rattle, no where near as bad the Ducati Monster 1000 I had!Really good to meet up with you last Saturdya afternoon in  Ewell.  I hope seeing my Bellagio made you finally go for it  Wink

We're all gonna meet up on Aug 23rd near Rugby for 1st Annual Bellagio meet, hopefully you'll be back from Europe for that?
 


Hey Mark - did you motorcycle all the way to Prague?! 

Yes - it's a second hand one, 2000 miles via dealer with warranty. 

Did I swap the Priller?!  No way Big%20smile

The black Bellagio looked way better than on paper.  After seeing yours, I figured that since it's being discontinued, I'd always be hankering after one  so just went through with it.  Yes - yours is very convincing Mark! Don't tell me you don't put work into keeping it so clean and shiny....after 2 days, mine looks like I've neglected to clean it for months!

I wish I could do August - but I won't be back in England until the first week of September.   It sounds like a great meet too!

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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 21:12
Originally posted by guzzibear

Once you start offering BEER Grant you are well in Wink 
Mines a gallon by the way TongueLOL
I am sure Northwest and Duffo will be in the line up as well LOL


When I said I'd offer a drink, I meant water! LOL

At last, I can fill up my flask with a drink on the road, rather than labelling my flask 'TOXIC - DO NOT DRINK - CONTAINS PETROL' when I ride the sports bike.   It's soooo fantastic riding without needing to refill the tank every 99 miles!
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 21:17
I found this article today, written by an eastern european rider who seems to have picked up his/her engilsh by reading "murrican" review sites...
 
Never mind, they do have it a tad tough over there on the balkan border so take it on the chin and take a squint at this piece >>>>
 
http://www.bikeme.tv/bm_articles/bikes/2008/moto-guzzi-bellagio-1.asp


Apart from the guy's diction, he's spot on!   The review captures pretty much, the essence of surprise that such a chic elegant teardrop classic could be so spirited and zesty to ride! 
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 22:04
Whereas Page 2....is a bit psychotic Wacko

Don't get a sense of the bike at all.  Just the guys' own issues.
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 22:07
^^^ Uh? Hold up, I'll just re-check that and report back
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 22:12
..Tsk. Quick flash update Mr. Y'know i didn't click through to that one B4...It's a pillion riders impression!! ....That could be valuable ground to persue my fiend...I'll read it in depth now as there is a break in the current Leonard Cohen concert on ITV4
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 22:30
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Whereas Page 2....is a bit psychotic Wacko
Don't get a sense of the bike at all.  Just the guys' own issues.
 
Blimey! It's not psychotic Bob, it's Australian! It may be the chateau neuf du pape shandy, but i found that one a most intreaguing read.
 
..Hey, Aug 23rd Rugby...you up for the crAIC?
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 20 Jun 2009 at 14:31
Lol!

I had to re-read it again. You're right - that's not psychotic.  That's just Australian English!!

Have you read the Moto reviews of the Bellagio? It's in French, but the reviews are very glowing.  The comments from the readers are a mixed bag though.   A lot of the commentators quibble about the shape/styling of the Bellagio.  None of them quibble about its performance on paper - since they haven't ridden the Bellagio!  I guess the Bellagio is too 'modern' a concept for the traditional cruiser rider to get to grips with. 
 
I'm in France all July and August!   It's a long way to Rugby just for the weekend! 
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 22 Jun 2009 at 17:24
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 ....I'm in France all July and August!   It's a long way to Rugby just for the weekend!... 
No worries, i'm certain there will be other Bellagio meets happening before too long.
 
..Could be that you may have some interesting tales about your ride that you may want to share with the forum!
 
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 22 Jun 2009 at 22:51
Hi David,

Are there many Moto Guzzi forum users from Europe here?

Got to say - really looking forward to touring with the Bellagio.  I might need to start thinking about sorting out luggage/panniers.   The factory ones look really good.  Maybe just a shame that they aren't very spacious nor secure.
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 22 Jun 2009 at 23:23
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Hi David,

Are there many Moto Guzzi forum users from Europe here?
 
....I'm not really sure which david you are addressing, but as i share that name i'll venture first and say that...it's difficult to tell.
 
Possibly quite a few, but juging by some of the written english on here, it's probably 80/20% toward tv subtitles rather than native tongue. 

Got to say - really looking forward to touring with the Bellagio.  I might need to start thinking about sorting out luggage/panniers.   The factory ones look really good.  Maybe just a shame that they aren't very spacious nor secure.
 
I'm heading out soon for a mini-coastal tour that will pos. use up three days of 300 mls.+ between unspecified destinations.
 
To me that equates to a couple of bic dispoable razors and a bit of soul.
 
T.B.H. Rob, it's the boss on the back that needs the mobile wardrobe. Wink
....I so miss the Bim for this sort of thing because i hate to spoil the lines of this bike by loading it out like a pack mule...
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Quote Brian UK Replybullet Posted: 23 Jun 2009 at 08:50
Originally posted by guzzibear

Once you start offering BEER Grant you are well in Wink 
Mines a gallon by the way TongueLOL
I am sure Northwest and Duffo will be in the line up as well LOL
You see, an offer of a drink brings all the old tarts out.LOLWink
 
 
PS, sorry the word "old" was a little OTT perhaps.Big%20smile


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Oh and of course no one'll find you in the queue for the bar then Bri?LOL
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Quote Grant Replybullet Posted: 23 Jun 2009 at 19:42
I'm heading out soon for a mini-coastal tour that will pos. use up three days of 300 mls.+ between unspecified destinations.
 
T.B.H. Rob, it's the boss on the back that needs the mobile wardrobe. Wink

Not tried pillion riding yet but was concerned enough when a pillion tried to mount the rear seat perch before I'd even got on the bike Shocked

It was a no goer after that.  More is definitely less!

To me that equates to a couple of bic dispoable razors and a bit of soul.
 
Shave with Occam's Razor!  Less is definitely more :)



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Once you start offering BEER Grant you are well in Wink 
Mines a gallon by the way TongueLOL


Lol.  Can you taste a pint of alcohol in a gallon of water?!

One of these lovely English sunny weekends, it'll be great to see everyone's Bellagio out on a crazy psychotic high speed frenzied biker run.  Err, I mean - 'bimble'. Big%20smile

 


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Quote Brian UK Replybullet Posted: 23 Jun 2009 at 21:59
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Oh and of course no one'll find you in the queue for the bar then Bri?LOL
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Quote 940V Replybullet Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 19:56
How To Tour On a Bellagio
 
Well, we can still count the current UK Bellagisti within two hands, so as member #5 (as far as i'm aware as there are currently 7? )....Here is a touring solution i have hit on...The mobile wardrobe is for exclusive use of the co-pilot-esse, while my meagre needs are accommodated next to the tool roll under the spare clip on two-up saddle!
 
 
The tank bag is a magnetic confection from Halfrauds, and they are not cheap believe me, but my word, what a versatile little add on that can swallow enormous amounts of kit they are!
 
I can thoroughly reccommend this set up for a wild week end, but the life support system comes as a custom item that you must supply yourself.
 
 
 
 
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